Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
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Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
I noticed this months ago and never thought about it too much, but sometimes I'll feel like eating a lot of fruit, especially juicy ones like mango, kiwi, apples, grapefruits, etc. If I have a little bit of fruit, the desire to gorge on more intensifies. However, if I go get a drink of water (usually cold carbonated mineral water of some kind, if it matters), the craving vanishes instantly. It's like magic.
Is this a personal quirk, or something fairly common? Anybody know a possible mechanism? Maybe just dehydration combined with subconscious Pavlovian conditioning due to how I used to quench my thirst with sugary beverages, from my SAD days of yore?
Is this a personal quirk, or something fairly common? Anybody know a possible mechanism? Maybe just dehydration combined with subconscious Pavlovian conditioning due to how I used to quench my thirst with sugary beverages, from my SAD days of yore?
Nightly Orange- Posts : 66
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Re: Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
I know what you're talking about. Sometimes, when I feel like eating something sweet, I reach for a cold can of LaCroix. It's super refreshing and I get a touch of the fruit flavor without actually eating a mountain of the stuff. Your body might be urging you to seek out something juicy to eat because it's actually thirsty.
While we're on the subject of fruit, I've been buying a lot of clementines recently because they're really convenient snacks for my kids. I. Can't. Stop. Eating. Them. Juicy fruits are too good!
While we're on the subject of fruit, I've been buying a lot of clementines recently because they're really convenient snacks for my kids. I. Can't. Stop. Eating. Them. Juicy fruits are too good!
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RedComet- Posts : 96
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Re: Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
I usually drink either Apple cider vinegar, or lemon juice. Water wont cut it for me cos I am always sipping it. But I am actually good with eating fruit, its the fruit juices that are bad. I know we've genetically selected fruit to be plump and sugary and have low nutrition in the bargain - but I still consider them real food. Juices OTOH - yea no thanks. Unless they've been fermented to dryness LOL.
srinath_69- Posts : 174
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Since we're all just opininating here, I think that a thirsty body can disguise itself as cravings, and that a big glass of non-sweet liquid will quell the cravings. And no, Srinath, I really don't think alcoholic drinks fermented from fruit juice is the correct way to conquer thirst!
Paysan- Posts : 141
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I am not conquering thirst or anything else for that matter.
I am just saying fruit is OK in my current state of life and I call them "real food" FWIW, fruit juices aren't unless previously acted upon by my lovely friends - the yeast.
I am just saying fruit is OK in my current state of life and I call them "real food" FWIW, fruit juices aren't unless previously acted upon by my lovely friends - the yeast.
srinath_69- Posts : 174
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Re: Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
Speaking of fermented fruit juices, I shouldn't be so hard on you, Srinath. After all, vinegar has a lot of uses even in the primal diet. Heheheh.
Paysan- Posts : 141
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ACV grrrr
Paysan wrote:Speaking of fermented fruit juices, I shouldn't be so hard on you, Srinath. After all, vinegar has a lot of uses even in the primal diet. Heheheh.
That reminds me - I can not for the life of me make ACV. Aple wie - no problem, fortified and north of 35% alchy easy peasy. Apple vinegar - Grrrrr not happening.
Should I ferment it with yeast first then put in culture from vinegar ???
BTW Primal IMHO is anything that existed ~10000 yrs ago, in about the same quantity by proportion. We had flour and sugar but 100 times less. We had meat and veggies @ about the same quantity as today. Just my guess.
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srinath_69- Posts : 174
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Re: Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
Vinegar is spoiled wine or other fruity liquids. The old tyme method of making ACV was to inoculate a barrel of cider or apple juice with the 'mother", that yeasty murky stuff at the bottom in non-pasteurized ACV, then let set outdoors for the winter. By spring, you'd have vinegar. I've never tried it, but the process seems simple enough. It's a relatively slow process, compared to commercial vinegar that never saw an apple or grape.
Paysan- Posts : 141
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Re: Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
Oh, I should wait longer ? I did the live culture mother ting but only like 2 months ago. Its also in a cooler house, outdoors is much colder than the 72 degree house.
srinath_69- Posts : 174
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Re: Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
AFAIK, Bragg's ACV is aged a minimum of one year. Maybe you should slow down a bit and twiddle your thumbs for a few more months?
Paysan- Posts : 141
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Just curious, how many warnings will Priest get before being banned? I believe this is his second. Based on his performance on MDA and now here, is there any reason to believe he is interested in anything except trolling?
Rocky07- Posts : 37
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Re: Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
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Lovebird- Posts : 2164
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Yikes
Oh yikes. I think I'll just buy the stuff, not worth it, I'm likely to catch hell from the lovely for using up that space for a whole year, and that's just aging ? how long do they ferment it ? Yikes, vino is under 6 weeks.Paysan wrote:AFAIK, Bragg's ACV is aged a minimum of one year. Maybe you should slow down a bit and twiddle your thumbs for a few more months?
srinath_69- Posts : 174
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Re: Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
I guess the difference between fermenting and ageing is the difference between new wine and classic wines that reach their peak flavour only after several years. As for me, I like grape juice, except for the calorie count. Don't drink it anymore, because I find it addictive.
Paysan- Posts : 141
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Re: Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
No wine and vinegar are both "fermented".
Vinegar uses bacteria, wine uses yeast.
They could run @ different speeds, definitely, but in fact I have made kombucha in 4-6 weeks in the past, so there is definitely something off in the apple juice I am fermenting to ACV, maybe the "mother" they are claiming has been radiated to oblivion. Time to poke around and find my kombucha mother and use that maybe ?
Vinegar uses bacteria, wine uses yeast.
They could run @ different speeds, definitely, but in fact I have made kombucha in 4-6 weeks in the past, so there is definitely something off in the apple juice I am fermenting to ACV, maybe the "mother" they are claiming has been radiated to oblivion. Time to poke around and find my kombucha mother and use that maybe ?
srinath_69- Posts : 174
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Re: Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
Old kombucha is so sour that it can twist one's face, but I don't recall ever getting vinegar from it. It just made multiple layers of "mushrooms" until the jar was full and the solution depleted.
It took you 4-6 weeks to get kombucha??? I only took that long starting from a non-pasteurized drink from the HFS and adding it to the base solution of tea and sugar. Using the mushroom made a usable product in under 2 weeks; we liked it sparkling.
It took you 4-6 weeks to get kombucha??? I only took that long starting from a non-pasteurized drink from the HFS and adding it to the base solution of tea and sugar. Using the mushroom made a usable product in under 2 weeks; we liked it sparkling.
Paysan- Posts : 141
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Re: Fruit craving suppressed by drinking water
I didn't drink it fast enough to get to it before 4 weeks. I sort of stopped making it because of that. I'll get a mushroom and see what the Apple juice does. I like it dry as the desert sand.
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